1、wonder if this pictures are taken by some civilian and posted on net then , this is not good news for PLAAN intelligence agencies atleast.
不清楚这些照片是不是平民拍摄然后贴到网上的,不过至少对于解放军海军情报部门,这不是什么好新闻。(这位印度同志替俺们地AA同志们着急了……)
2、Yes, they are by fans.
没错,是军迷拍的。
This is not the good trend, at least i didn't see any Indian fans did so.
这不是好现象,至少我没见印度军迷干过这事儿。(没去过印度,不知道象国内这帮有钱有闲,成天没事就爱挎着数码相机上船厂、机场晃攸的人有多少……)
Some Chinese is too exciting about progress in military to displined himself.
有些中国人就是看见军事项目就激动,一激动就不管组织纪律了。(说的很传神啊,难怪时不时总有一两个人被AA请去喝茶。前两天不是听说有人因为楼上这套图进去了,不过后来该ID出来辟谣,可是又有人提出是不是别人穿了该同志地马甲,总之是扑朔迷离……)
Simply because indians don't have that simple a access to any sort of military facility .The security protocol is too complicated
简单说,印度军迷不可能那么容易就能靠近任何军事设施,安全巡都是逻十分严密的。(某些成天嚷嚷着TG瞎保密的无良分子来看看,民主的印度,军迷更可怜耶~~~~~~~)
I remeber my camera being snached 6 months ago when i was trying o take some shots for my pals at bhakhra {A Dam }. only after i showed with my navy ID card , i was allowed to go , but not before i had cleared my camera 's memory
我记得6个月前在bhakhra大坝,我想和我的几个朋友合影,我相机被立刻没收了,在我出示我的海军证件后他们才放我走,不过先得把相机内存里所 有东西都删除了。(某人在2006珠海航展上看到给勇士队的苏27加油的TG加油车上有个标志很奇怪,拍了一张,结果驾驶员连忙跑过来要求删除。警惕性 嘛,中国军人也不差地说……)
4、two reasons:
两个原因
(1). Navy stuff more easily to be snapshot. Coz shipyard normally in the open air and most Chinese civil shipyard participat the Navy contract now.
海军设施更容易被拍摄,因为通常船厂都暴露在户外,而且多数中国的民用船厂都有军方的项目。
(2). National spy could be track by CIA system, but how a civil carrying a camera be scout all the time.
国派间谍都被CIA监视着,可带相机的平民就防不胜防了。
I knew some of those guys are jail by Chinese CIA, they deserved!
据我所知,有几个家伙(因为干这事儿)已经被中国情报机关给抓了,罪有应得!(看用词似乎不太象国内网友,某位正义感很强的印度同志,还是华人?)
5、open air does not mean that you can't cordon the boundary , Mazadon docks are covered with huge walls so , that no one can peep thru atleast and plus there os no huge skyline near by so that one can be look at thru height .
露天设施并不是都意味着你不能保持警戒,Mazadon船厂就被高墙围着,至少没人能轻易偷拍,而且周围也没有高层建筑,没人能利用高度往墙里看。(没有高层建筑……这才是主因吧? )
yea they deserved , Chinese CIA beetre also work upon removing theses pics from webpages after all they are responsible for chineses taxpayer
对,他们活该,中国情报机关还忙于清理删除那些被贴在网上的照片,毕竟他们得对他们的纳税人负责。
6、rockdog, So I suggest you not to post these pics here. Divulge a secret not only include disclosing a secret, but also include spreading a secret. You can find this in China's law.
rockdog,我还是建议你别在这儿铁这些照片了,泄密不仅包括透露秘密,同时也包括传播秘密信息,这是中国法律的定义。(猛!印度民间还有通晓中国法律的人! )
7、nice, and i'm reliefed newer designs didnt came out
054A has strong air defence, severly lacks ASW.
054A的防空能力很强,可它缺少反潜能力。
8、The biggest progress is the MK41 like VLS (with HQ-16) is completely made and desigend by Chinese own.
最大的进步是船上的垂发(酷似MK41)这回是完全由中国自己设计制造的。
9、damn bastards are leaking out our secrets.... btw hows this have to do with indian navy?
一群混蛋在泄密!!
顺便问一下,这些根印度海军又啥关系?(注意,是our secrets,我们的秘密。看来是某海外华人,而不会是在国内军坛混的 )
10、well we discuss about anythin related to navy here、
任何关于海军的话题我们都讨论。
11、rockdog good to see knowledgable chinesde members r here, indeed VLS is a not a joke to make which people thinks just a box.and i dont think it features such as MK41 need its specs.
rockdog你好,能在这(论坛上)看到有见识的中国成员真不错,确实垂发不是小方盒子那么简单,而且像MK41这种的设计我认为他不会占太多空间。(终于出来了一个比较有理智的印度人)